Stetsonharry (talk) 21:09, 2 February 2009 (UTC), I think everybody's raised good points. Charles Durning is the 1,433rd most popular actor (down from 1,265th in 2019), the 2,493rd most popular biography from United States (down from 2,309th in 2019) and the 695th most popular American Actor. His father was an Irish immigrant and his mother was of Irish descent. You were getting a salary for performance plus a rehearsal salary. Charles Durning (AP)Charles Durning, a World War II hero who became the king of the character actors, died Monday at his Manhattan home. Not even a Bronze Star, much less a Silver Star. Get special job alerts, offers and insider tips on making the most of your military experience in the civilian workforce. Description. Aedwardmoch (talk) 05:35, 8 November 2008 (UTC)AedwardmochAedwardmoch (talk) 05:35, 8 November 2008 (UTC), There are different ways to calculate "most decorated" and it's exacerbated by the fact that some awards are delayed by decades. After recovering for six months, he was put back on the front lines to combat the German Ardennes offensive. WWII veteran, dance instructor and diversely talented stage & screen actor were all inclusions on the resume of this perpetually busy US actor who didn't get in front of the cameras until around the time of his fortieth birthday. It is possible that a riflemen might be reclassified as a driver due to the extent of his injuries and be given limited duties in a FAOB, so it is not inconceivable, but the point here is that there needs to be some reliable evidence. He also played the voice of recurring character Francis Griffin, the religious zealot father of Peter in the animated series Family Guy. Rlevse Talk 03:28, 9 November 2009 (UTC), i'm confused because it seems that three purple hearts are claimed, but only two instances of being wounded are cited. The Malmedy Massacre was exhaustingly investigated by the First Army. See: [3], Durning served in the U.S. Army during World War II. [4] Given the scores of thousands of trained infantry replacements prepositioned in Britain in anticipation of D-Day casualties (over 88,000 replacements of all types had been 'stockpiled' in the UK by 7 Jun 44), it defies belief that the Rangers would accept a last minute replacement who was not even infantry qualified. At least that last bit is what he told me, in detail. Thinking about how veterans of that era typically talk about the Army with regard to administrative matters only confirms this feeling that such records may be largely inaccurate. Also, the alleged false statement was the Durning was the 2nd most decorated soldier of WWII, which Monkeyzpop disputes. he and the rest of his company were captured and forced to march through a pine forest at Malmedy, the . The piece on Durning does not refer to any military units, does not claim that he landed in Normandy on D-Day and credits him only with a Silver Star and three Purple Hearts. He was an infantryman,. And yet I am still very far from being convinced. And even though the obituaries now are saying he didnt like to talk about his war experiences, he shared everything with me. Sep 25, 2021 - Explore Dick Clark's board "Charles Durning", followed by 266 people on Pinterest. Search instead in Creative? Further thoughts on this would be helpful. and will get the relevant/readable pages uploaded ASAP. before D-Day), it and the Third Army were still in England, not yet having been in combat. LOS ANGELES - From World War II hero to dancer and award-winning actor, Charles Durning has lived a storied life. Over the course of his life, aside from the medals he earned as a soldier, Durning won numerous accolades as an actor including a Life Achievement Award, a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, 9 Emmy Award nominations, and an Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor. - According to another source, Durning and 12 others were levied out of C/386 AAA/AW on 23 May 44, just two weeks before D-Day and assigned to the 17th Replacement Depot; he arrived in Normandy still assigned to a detachment of that Depot (as Old bubblehead noted). Following your training period in 1943, you were sent to England in February of the following year. The French government apparently issued a statement mentioning Malmedy, but the closest I can come is this[1]. And then you'd do three to six plays every year down on Lafayette Street new plays by new writers: Sam Shepard, David Mamet, David Rabe, John Ford Noonan, Jason Miller.". I do belive that the edit should stand, however. With the 398th Infantry Regiment he moved into Germany where he was again seriously wounded in March 1945 and evacuated to the United States. It's right at the beginning of the movie. Let's discuss the editing here please. Whether you want to learn more about other famous veterans, polish up your resume, find veteran job fairs in your area, or connect with employers looking to hire veterans, Military.com can help. He agreed to give us a day, I pulled together an amazing crew of industry veterans (including the very best cameraman I ever got the joy of working with they were all Democrats willing to donate their time for the campaign), we found a location north of L.A., and within a couple days were out there filming. That same year, he won a Tony Award for his performance as Big Daddy in Cat on a Hot Tin Roof. In 1979, he played Doc Hopper, a man who owns a frog leg restaurant and the main antagonist in The Muppet Movie. Set the record straight and, once you have, we can revise it here. Soldiers of Kampfgruppe Peiper summarily killed eighty He was 89. ( M. Durning was temporarily assigned to the Special Services (entertaining troops) before shipping home with the 398th Regiment in January, 1946. 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Same for passage saying he was hospitalized for physical and "mental" wounds. You can hear a story from one of the survivors, Ted Paluch, below. And he said, that's good. The Hollywood Historic. The Service Stars (or campaign stars or battle stars) came in bronze or silver. Asteriks (talk) 18:46, 10 August 2008 (UTC). He told me he was fond of my father because he was, in his opinion, one of only a handful that he felt was actually telling the truth most of the rest had either intentionally or unintentionally blown their stories up over the years into hugely embellished tales that contradicted each other and played loose with the facts. Other film roles include Henry Larson, the benevolent father of Holly Hunter's character in Home for the Holidays (1995) and Waring Hudsucker in The Hudsucker Proxy (1994). . Charles Durning. He won a Golden Globe in 1990 for his supporting role in the television miniseries The Kennedys of Massachusetts, having had three previous nominations. Durning was born in Highland Falls, New York, to Louise Marie (Leonard), a laundress, and James Gerald Durning. Sad news arrived on Christmas Day with word that longtime character actor Charles Durning . But he leaves behind an interesting question: was he at the Malmedy Massacre? For example, tankers were returned to armored units, specialist troops (rangers, paratroops, etc.) at Frances (disambiguation). Charles Durning, Durning served in the U.S. Army during World War II. --rogerd (talk) 02:58, 15 March 2008 (UTC), I had the priviledge and honor to meet Charles Durning some years ago, when I was on The Los Angeles St. Patrick's Day Committee, and we made him "Grand Marshall" for the parade in Hollywood. 98.255.89.22 (talk) 09:00, 6 July 2013 (UTC), Oldbubblehead. In conclusion I still have strong doubts about this story and I think that one should check for more reliable sources before writing that Mr. Durning is a Malmedy massacre survivor. Durning first got his start in guest appearances in early 1960's TV shows. Kaspazes talk 13:00, 29 December 2006 (UTC), User:Monkeyzpop has made an edit to this article about some statement that Burt Reynolds supposedly made on a TV show, that he is disputing. I've uploaded the following scans of relevant docs: (still researching correct license and category tagging). Depot/ Repl. Charles Durning, a Tony Award-winning actor whose prolific work in films and television included supporting roles in the classic comedy "Tootsie" and the TV sitcom "Evening Shade," died Monday.. Is it him, or someone who really looks like him? At that time,in my pre-understanding of conversations I had with his spouse, Mr. Durning did not like to discuss his involvement in the landing at Omaha Beach that fateful day with The 1st. While Oldbubblehead's research apparently verifies the Silver Star, the issue will not be put to bed until the GO (with its citation extract) can be located. A lot of that is released through acting. firefighter Member 12,730 Location: Syracuse, NY #4 Posted February 14, 2016 He did his service hink441 Member 5,410 Location: Virginia #5 Posted February 14, 2016 A few additional points. I repeat one last time, if you "know" - as you insist you do - why don't you contact the French Embassy and get them to retract the statement? Languages Editions (L) the men who were in the pasture and who managed to escape the slaughter are all identified and have been interrogated by the US Army as their testimonies where the first material on which the judges would rely during the process. His family said he loved Christmas, and if he could have chosen a day as his last, this would be it. He was nominated for the Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor for both The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas (1982) and To Be or Not to Be (1983). The stockily built Charles Durning was one of Hollywood's most dependable and sought after supporting actors.Durning was born in Highland Falls, New York, to Louise Marie (Leonard), a laundress, and James Gerald Durning. "Oldbubblehead (talk) 04:25, 17 July 2013 (UTC). The fact is mentioned, but a reliable source (e.g. Charles Edward Durning (February 28, 1923 - December 24, 2012) was an American actor, with appearances in over 200 movies, television shows and plays. Born: 28-Feb-1923 Birthplace: Highland Falls, NY Died: 24-Dec-2012 Location of death: New York City Cause of death: unspecified. Before I make any changes to his page, I have asked for some clarification from the Wikipedia powers that be. a former professional boxer and a decorated world war veteran who took part in the d-day invasion at omaha beach, the battle of the bulge and was one of few survivors of the malmedy massacre,. More memorably, I had a great day hanging out talking World War II with him. I'm afraid that's where your argument runs out of steam. 7. Charles Durning. The Wikipedia discussion argues that because there is no documentation, and more importantly, because so many accounts of what happened at Malmady are embellished and inaccurate, that he should not be cited as a survivor of the incident. It also shows wounded 29 Jun 44, which is incorrect in comparison with all the med records. Tootsie. Durning won the Los Angeles Drama Critics Circle Award for his powerful performance in The Westwood Playhouse's 1977 production of David Rabe's Streamers. [Ref: http://www.web2carz.com/people/who-you-know/2097/charles-durnings-war-heroism-exaggeration-fabrication]. Hollywood is such a crazy thing. For his valor he . On the other hand I am far from being convinced that the fact this would have been said by the French consul (if it was the case) make it the revealed truth. Born in Highland Falls, New York, Charles Durning was the ninth of ten children. Well I should maybe have taken part earlier to this discussion. chris Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.179.70.124 (talk) 11:29, 25 December 2012 (UTC), Charles Durning was presented with the French Legion of Honor on April 22, 2008 (last week). Charles Durning, an American actor , plays Mayor John Fitzgerald, father of Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy, in the TV mini-series 'The Fitzgeralds And . Also, we got Paul Newman to do the voiceover which was fun I directed him over the phone but he did his performance at the end of a recording session for the animated feature, Cars, and he was very old by then so most people didnt even recognize his voice (which was a lesson to me in voice talent). Durning received the French National Order of the Legion of Honor from the French Consul in Los Angeles in April 2008. I could find no trace of this on the website of the French consulate. On TV, Durning had a recurring role on Everybody Loves Raymond as the Barone family's long-suffering parish priest, Father Hubley. I furthermore noticed that these websites often copy that material from one to the other (which means nobody actually checks the accuracy of that information). Anyone have any further information??? In 2010, the two filed an official Declaration of Separation. While working as an usher in a burlesque theatre, he was hired to replace a drunken actor on stage. "I had no money at all, and he [Joseph Papp] didn't pay much. My old buddy Dr. Steven Miller (who was my partner in the Shifting Baselines Ocean Media Project and would eventually be executive producer of Flock of Dodos as well as the current Lionfish PSA Campaign), quickly raised the funds for me to write and direct a commercial for the campaign. We were frightened all the time. 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