All they care is that you take ownership, fix it and find a way not to let that particular thing get by you again. My resume still looks a little odd to me, because I wouldnt put HS on it and I dont have that higher ed but my list of experiences and roles and 20 years at the same company progressing to higher level positions speaks for itself. Full stop, no explanation needed. LW #2 A technique that people with language LDs use to proofread for spelling/typos is scanning the text backwards. Going off to college and not being able to call your mom about your day, your friends, boys etc. Dont just enter whatever the data is on autopilot, consider if the information sounds correct. OP2, I dont know if the errors you makes are about substance or typos. Its all based on lies and deceit. Yep- Fully agree with this. But really, when in doubt, ask them. Long story short I ended up losing my savings on out of pocket costs. We just care if you can get the job done. If you work 11 hours and get $100, that's less than $10. Im pretty horrified by the HR manager discussing an employees education level in the break room. Rhinos have contempt for them.#9 True!#10 Going door to door. Actually it doesnt have to cost a lot of money. One example: probably 50% of my errors were in presentations, where the title would say one thing (we need to increase salaries by 3.5% across the board next year), but the tables or graphs on the slide would say something else (a 3.2% increase is sufficient to stop attrition). The group is preoccupied with making money. It makes you the smart one for getting into your career for free. OP3, you have my full empathy and my utmost respect. Since OP was concerned about the letter looking mismatched, I think a lot of people use they so it wouldnt matter what the name was that goes with it. And have to train yourself not to autopilot or skim your way through. They will offer a job to just about anyone. Susan. already will, and Susan never has to know what the letter said. For people I know who do this, their first choice is the first pronoun, but they are also perfectly fine with the second if its easier for you. I interviewed at a Cydcor-like company on accident once. I work at a university and its getting more common to add your pronouns as a part of your email signature or at the bottom of a letter. I was highly skeptical after hearing back almost immediately after applying, but I was pretty desperate to find a job ASAP due to circumstances in my life at the time, that I was willfully blind to it. 2) Prioritize the mistakes you look for: you probably cant be 100% error free, but 90% is pretty good. They tell you to fight through door to door sales and build your own pyramid scheme so you can be a millionaire in management. And then add to that the urgency factor and I have a problem. I do not have a problem with that. Theres always a risk if encountering implicit bias and I can understand why some people would rather not out themselves in that way, but Id be surprised if many transphobic employers thought to intentionally ask for name/pronouns of use as a strategy to weed out trans people. so anything other than block text needs extra scrutiny. I think the issue that people are taking is that getting a degree isnt the cure for OP#3s problems that their HR person has serious boundary issues, primarily, nor their stated insecurity about their lack of degree despite their professional success. Yup, this is it (although the specific campaign I got hired for isnt door-to-door). This is very fixable, you can do this. Or the notion that if you've quit Cydcor in a few hours, days, weeks, months, or years, you have failed. I even read online reviews for the company, had a lot of negative reviews, but the way they were written seemed like people who didn't want to sell anything and felt duped. I also have found that if Im working on a long document or one with a lot of details (like an agenda where I have to check a large number of names, degrees, affiliations, etc.) I often see small typo/grammatical errors in our management presentations. Where I have to rush to complete a file same day, I try to work on a different file if I can for 1/2 an hour and then recheck it. Roesleins point is that the OP should stop being embarrassed and just own it. I have also learned to write letters, stop and do a completely different task and come back to it later. How did the top two performers take to their idea? I am selling a car thru an Is this a scam? Stay if you need the dough, but try to switch if you can. I deal mostly with numbers but where you have lots of writing, it is useful to read up from the bottom of the page up sentence by sentence. I think someone was accidentally outed to family because a letter came with the persons preferred name. They still didnt accept it, but their lack of acceptance was based on faith that top performers would happily stay an extra 2 years in the company with no salary increase. Yeah I edited Phils comment to remove it. First- Cydcors client (cable, internet, office supplies) or Cydcor themselves take the account away from the employee who established the account after 6 weeks- this means that the salesman only gets their residuals for a period of time- if the residuals stayed so would I; it would be a real sales job with potential for exponential pay which would balance out the meager commission. Thats NOT a great system, but it will work. It will not out them any further than their health forms, residence life forms, financial aid forms, etc. My company has a written policy on who specifically can have access to various employee info (including educational background) and for what reason. Ripoff Report | Complaints Reviews Scams Lawsuits Frauds Reported. Yep, Im working towards my third degree. I work in a field where everyone tends to have a specific degree one I did not have. And then if someone does stay in this toxic place for 6 months, they are probably worn down enough too accept any flimsy excuse for refusing the transfer to HR. I was being asked to pay for own gas for company business, which is not all that uncommon but there was no reimbursement at all. Show customers why they should trust your business over your competitors Phoenix Solution in Fairfield, NJ is a SCAM. Seconding this. Theres nothing wrong with only having a high school diploma and I hope you can find a way not to be embarrassed that some of your colleagues know (if anything, it makes whatever professional advancement youve achieved more impressive), but your HR manager sounds like an ass. I'll never have the person to dance with me in the kitchen to old 70's music, Sign in to comment to your favorite stories, participate in your community and interact with your friends. I agree. That being said, your HR manager is a horrible piece of work. That thing with the pay sounds really fishy. But now you have an AAM community to cheer you on go for it! I think it generally means either one is okay (i.e. I believe it man, there's a lot of stuff out there like this. Of my graduating class that went to college? Estimated amount consumers saved since 1997: $15,590,010,907. The question you are asking is not Would you like to revert but What name are you using in your application materials and How do you want to be referred to? And presumably you are not asking for your convenience, but to make sure that your recommendation is as useful to them as possible. Ripoff Report on: Cydcor - Cydcor marketing scam multiple violation deceptive trade practices act berkely california I have in many instances asked students if I can share certain things but I hesitated to do that this time. In the end the promotion isn't really a promotion its just a way for them to get you do more responsibilities without having to pay you more. I said a mix of both would be nice, and she said to start off you would be outside 75% of the time. That was the end of that for me. I know that as a cis lesbian, I wouldnt want to work anywhere where Id have to be closeted, and where the climate is so hostile that Id be fired/not hired for being gay. THAT is HR malpractice and just all around disgusting behavior. And keep doing this. Sometimes, when people find out, they make surprised faces. Your HR person is awful not just for gossiping about peoples educational levels but for being so nasty about it. Some people do not come out to everyone at the same time. Cydcor companies are not honest with their candidates and it is not because they are evil people that run these companies, it's because it's a system that has been in place for years and years. I dont know how well that works with the OPs data-focused presentations, though. Found this Reddit thread because this was mentioned in a "Slave Circle" Youtube video! You would not expect your car to go down the road on an empty tank. Come back, settle the new people up first. Presumably she only got that information through her role in HR, and not general knowledge. The HR experience is learning how to interview dozens of people daily and ensnare people into your psychological sales cult. But Im cis, so *shrug* if anyone else knows differently please tell us? Its pretty offensive to imply that people with a college degree are smarter than those without. do I really need to send a thank-you note after being rejected for a job? I'll never have the person who is just like me in my life again. I got Word to read my essays to me in university for that reason, but it really doesnt like reading anything earlier than 1900 as a year. I figured that's when I would make it. Weird vibes from the guy as if they dressed a meth dealer in nice clothes and gave him a back story to regurgitate. My LinkedIn profile states Im not looking to move employers. I recently had a recruiter ask if Im interested in leaving X Company. The next one will be better and more precise. Writing everything out made all the things that I was brushing off as well, any first job in a field thats not your ideal is going to be a bit rough really come into focus, and then right after my break I got pushed into signing up a customer whose card got declined twice, and I realized I genuinely couldnt keep working for a company that was so blatantly scammy. I mean wow. The person who said the brain autocorrects is right. thats why you didnt make the sale. From Cydcor website: "Cydcor is the largest provider of outsourced sales services in North America. The funny thing is that none of them directly use their PhD area of expertise for our work now. Dont be embarrassed if you can help it, just smile and say thanks for catching that, Ill fix it, and keep moving. They prey on vulnerable uneducated desperate individuals and praise them and use other psychological tactics to draw them in and keep them in till they break them and/or bankrupt them. If it helps at all OP1, here are some stories from others who have worked there on the antimlm reddit: Although my parents were divorced, they put their differences aside after some time and truly got along for the sake of us. The day is coming to an end and the interview is coming back to the office. '), I dont know if that is 100% true for everyone who does this. That was literally the only reason the work didnt change. Arrive early in the morning to open up. Imagine that someone being the one who carried you for 9th months in their belly, taught you how to walk, fought with you about little things that only a mother and daughter relationship could understand. Got one from Possible scam? I knew something was wrong when I showed up for my interview and there were like 15 other people sitting in the lobby. I was so pissed off I couldn't finish my food. While you usually dont want to complain about an employer during an interview, it does make sense in this case to state that you learned that the company was an MLM and that youre not comfortable with this business model. Just use the pronouns. We all make tiny mistakes. I went back to school in my mid-30s. OP2 what I like to do is imagine as vividly as possible that I am now presenting the work, and go through it the way that I would if there were an audience there. But make sure they know what youre asking them for when Im asked to look over a presentation for errors, I default to typos, grammar, and math. Cydcor. What HR did was horrible but youre in the same company, likely working the same job, as some people who have degrees! Think car dealerships, furniture/ appliance stores windows and flooring places. Sometimes it means Id prefer you use they but if youre so worried that youll screw up that you avoid talking about me altogether, he is all right too.. More importantly, OP if it bothers you, please look into going back to school. I do have my skills up, I am now the inventory manager of a plants and trees nursery because I like to spend my time at hard, honest work- I've been there for . Overall, with a company this shady, its better to acknowledge that it was a mistake to join, as opposed to try overly hard to not say anything negative. Most top talent trickled out of the company in the next years. After awhile, I started to realize that every time I tried to explain the company to an interviewee, I felt like I was trying to justify what I was doing like I wasn't completely insane. 4. What Cydcor's scam businesses refer to as an "owner"he or she is the one actually running the businesses'/location's scam. This will be generally understood and viewed with approval by HR / recruiters and hiring managers esp. This reminds me of some random tweet I saw where the person was sitting in the college library listening to a guy brag about his ACT scores, and the person thinking I signed up for the ACTs, forgot about them, and we still ended up at the same college. I use CEO and office in quotes as they try to deceive you in all lectures, suggesting an image where the company is independent, the man in the 3 piece suit who is interviewing you is its owner, and the company as a lone entity is worth a few million dollars. 100% Agreed. The value wasnt there. Reading aloud can help you catch a lot of typos/spelling/grammar and you can leverage the built-in text reader feature in Word to let you hear how others would hear it. Cydcor Pyramid Scheme Cydcor affiliates use deceptive job ads stating marketing training when job is actually door-to-door sales. Youll notice when something sounds strange. I use these things to help myself as a copywriter. Hey, what happened to the other people that interviewed the day before? They were not affiliated with a cable company. manager to refer all questions of compensation til the 2nd interview. Your comment hit hard on me, so thank you for sharing your experience! The extent to which employers are arbitrarily excluding potentially good hires with this requirement is stupid. Greatest job I've had - been here 17 years. They lie about how much you can eventually make. But to start disparaging education and educated people as a result both takes it too far and misses the point. Or if youre about to retire, or whatever. He not only knew this device but contracted with the DoD to create it. If you cant find a work buddy to trade proofreading with (you read theirs/they read yours), then make sure as much as humanly possible to give yourself at least half of day to complete the presentation and then put it away and work on something else. Do you have a trusted Co-worker that can proofread? Theyre not shady and not as picky about MLM on your resume. schools require the legal name and might not have a place on application for preferred name. but Cydcor??!?! My thought was, HR= downline recruiter. It speaks to the strength of the community youve built that people are engaging in meaningful and legitimate workplace discussions. Most MLMs have a starter-package where you buy into the business and get an initial set of whatever it is youre selling, and then you have to keep buying the products so you can keep the product line up to date (so, if the company switches from Fall Product to Winter Product, you have to buy a bunch of Winter Product even if your garage is still full of Fall Product, etc.) The HR person was being a jerk, and I am sorry your coworkers joined in rather than pushing back on that the way they should have. What does Cydcor do? The owner/president/ceo/whateverthefuckhewantstocallhimself fired me and one of the reasons he gave was that I missed a night where they go bowling together or some shit. Its a surreal, and super stressful experience for sure! And from time to time, seasonal work leads to other opportunities! Congratulations on getting out. Well done and all good luck! Youre right that they should check with the student first! If Tupperware/your standard MLM is just a baby step away from a pyramid scheme, this job is a baby step away from that. JOB SUMMARY Our team of Brand Ambassadors hosts events, trade shows, and pop-up shops across the San Antonio area to bring brand awareness to our clients. OP3 I went to Uni but never finished (I hated the program, and it was not something I pursued as a career, nor, in retrospect, was it something I ever wanted a career in). At a certain point, track record carries much more weight with the people who matter (unless they happen to be one of those jerks, in which case, you dont want to work for them anyway). And formal titles wouldnt be a thing. No! My mother only has a high school degree, and she was able to get administrative jobs in the 1970s and 80s that would probably require or at least prefer a college degree now. Problem is - if you are modeling someone - you take on the good and bad charicteristics. LW#2 It depends what exactly your mistakes are like but if its spelling, I feel you. Listing those out has become quite common in academia. One woman called him out on it as she had just bought her paper the day before- in response, this salesman of Cydcor for 3 years, was baffled as to what to do besides ask her twice to confirm that the cheaper price was not a special sale price. That is NOT the path for everyone, and I will repeat what others said my job is not related to my degree, at all! I used to always tell my clients minimum 24hrs as a deadline just to be sure of getting a nights sleep in between my rough draft and polishing. I mean, if I had my preference, pronouns would have no gender. A free inside look at company reviews and salaries posted anonymously by employees. But does it really matter? There are soooo many company locations under this umbrella. I havent heard of Cydcor, but most MLMs are scams and will absolutely elicit a negative response on your resume. Am I being emotional by being upset that my private information was shared in that way? Eventually, I had enough experience under my belt that my lack of college was a moot point. Using they pronouns in a recommendation letter without confusing people Knowing they would look step-by-step in my analysis to see the input I used and the numerical levers I was using to explain the increase, I needed to make absolutely sure every step of the equations were believable to make my case. Weve got the 8 steps, the three 5s, acronyms for customer types and impulse factors, and if you dont use every single one of them in the same way with each customer (but also make sure to respond flexibly to every scenario!) 8. Good for fandom, bad for career advice :), I just go for the dragon age stuff. Probably for the best. I mean of course people feel a variety of ways about this, but there are definitely people who have a preference for a mix. Ive used Voice Dream, personally. My issues were never with the people or even managers within, but they make their money off of the sales of product. I promise you, no future employer will look down on you for doing honest work to make ends meet during a time when everyone is struggling. I still had bills to pay. For OP#4, why not use they for everybody? Cydcor also has a contract that each ICL must sign with rules of how they can conduct their office. Beware of Cydcor and their little sister companies this "opportunity" is back handed and backwards. My interviewer seemed cool and well-put together. I majored in history in college, thinking I would go to law school. She said it was me and it very much embarrassed me. But Ive been working for 30 years and Ive (mostly) managed fine without one, as I am sure you will. We all have different life experiences and that needs to be respected. after working a full day you get back for the magical s**t bag ceremony of bells in which you display your "accomplishment" for the day then as a leader you go to closed door meetings and usually go over the teams performance and the the "Juniors" usually its put in such a way that either they are awesome or utter shits that can't do it and they are. Where someone went to school or what degrees they have attained are not a secret. I made some money at first, but it dried up as they sent me to worse and worse neighborhoods with no real businesses to canvass. Yeah, this is something I recommend to my clients. Also, can you enlist anyone else in looking over the data for you? However, many Cydcor offices use other recruiting techniques, i.e Craig's list, jobster, newspapers, employment guides, and of course the resume banks you can purchase from most recruiting websites. 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